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There was a great piece on Morning Edition yesterday about art that becomes popular versus art that doesn’t. Is there some quality that makes some art successful and preserved forever or is it all just random chance?

Obviously, the big problem with a question like that is that you can look at only one timeline; there’s no way to look at an alternate world where the Potter books never took off (or they did, inevitably).

For those who haven’t clicked the link (you can listen to the short news piece or you can read a transcript of it) a Princeton professor decided to create a number of alternate virtual worlds to test the hypothesis that popular art becomes popular because of its inherent qualities rather than random chance. He created a database of music by unknown, unsigned bands and invited thousands of teenagers to listen and download their songs for free.

Those teenagers were randomly sorted into nine different “worlds.” In one control group, the teens did not get the chance to see which songs other teens selected. In the other eight, they did.

Try not to be wildly surprised, but different songs became popular in different virtual worlds. A song that was number 1 in one setting was 40th (out of 48) in another. Further experimentation established that there was a minimum level of quality below which popularity was not possible, but after that there was no predicting what would be successful and what would not. Read it yourself if you’re curious.

My problem with this is not the assertion that popularity does not come solely from quality, and that a piece of art that is well-known is not inherently better than something obscure. It’s always been perfectly obvious to me that wonderful and excellent books could/should have been popular but weren’t (I’m not talking about me, now).

My objection here is that the good professor chalks popularity up to “chance.” In fact, he (or at least the reporter covering his work) hits the idea of chance very hard. But that’s a black box.

I’ve talked about this sort of thing before, but there are a lot of effects that people attribute to chance simply because they are not well understood. What I would like to see is an experiment that examines the way those songs became popular in each virtual world. Was it an early surge? Was there an early surge that faced a backlash, with the more popular work getting a secondary surge? I’d like to know, and by that I mean that I’d really really like to know.


Mirrored from Twenty Palaces. You can comment here but not there.


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Mar. 1st, 2014 05:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think there is a social component to popularity. Sometimes one can peg it, like Coco Chanel and the "boy look" that changed fashion, or Emma Hamilton and the "Greek Look" that let women get out of panniers and towering wigs in the late 1790s.

And sometimes there is exactly the right time to discover, or rediscover something--like the school story aspect of Harry Potter, in addition to the magic, and the sports novel, and the "special snowflake" hero that is always a draw. School stories had fallen out of popularity for a generation, so it was time for a resurgence, I think the more with so many broken homes.

Not saying this was "the" cause. I don't think it's ever that simple. But I do believe there is a social element to popularity, and that it can be very tough to quantify as sometimes it's personality, or situation, or whatever. And it can happen two hundred years later, like Jane Austen.
Mar. 1st, 2014 09:28 pm (UTC)
You make good points: it's a complicated thing and it would take a lot of work to untangle it all the factors and it's not like we'd come up with a chemical equation.

At the same time, I wonder how much the idea that there's a "right" time for a certain kind of book to be discovered is rationalization after the fact. Nurse novels have been out of style for a while now; is it time for a resurgence (maybe gender-switched?).

I don't know. Sometimes I think we'd be better at predicting Where Things Should Go Next if we really understood Why Things Turned Out As They Did.

Signed, the guy with an anti-Grimdark epic fantasy no one wanted.
Mar. 1st, 2014 09:41 pm (UTC)
I would read an anti-Grimdark fantasy in a heartbeat, and I know a lot of people who are sick to death of Grimdark.
I also wonder if the "right time" can only be identified in retrospect.

Edited at 2014-03-01 09:41 pm (UTC)
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