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RPG-7 Question

Here’s something I haven’t been able to find out for myself: If person with an RPG-7 fired an anti-personnel grenade into an apartment, would it destroy the walls, floor and ceiling of the apartment? Would it blow out the windows of those other apartments?

I’m assuming it wouldn’t collapse the building.

Mirrored from Twenty Palaces. You can comment here or there.

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nick_kaufmann
Dec. 8th, 2009 10:39 pm (UTC)
Enjoy your time in Gitmo!
burger_eater
Dec. 8th, 2009 10:57 pm (UTC)
Hah! It's the internet! No one knows who I am!
hradzka
Dec. 8th, 2009 10:54 pm (UTC)
You know, that is a damn good question. I don't know. I've held a functional RPG, but I've never fired one. I'll ask some acquaintances and see what they know. My guess is it'll depend on the type of grenade; overpenetration might conceivably be a problem. I know that happened during the Great Nordic Biker War of the 90s, when Danish biker gangs were using anti-tank weapons against each others' clubhouses. They were using stolen armory weapons, though -- ie, stuff the Danish army uses, not RPG-7s. One clubhouse got hit during a party with a round from an AT4-HEAT, which is a Swedish/American shoulder-mounted anti-tank weapon. Went straight through the center of the party, out the other side of the house, landed in a field. Two people in the party actually received fatal burns as it went through.
burger_eater
Dec. 8th, 2009 11:22 pm (UTC)
Thanks. I'd be grateful.
hradzka
Dec. 12th, 2009 05:10 pm (UTC)
I emailed a friend whose husband has a seriously bad-ass resume (former French Foreign Legion, mercenary/security work). "Hey, ask D. about this, would you?" This is the slightly edited reply:

Hey!! First...I love this email...this cracks me up...and the answer is:

1. It depends on the ammunition used for the RPG-7...is it anti-tank or anti-personnel rocket? The anti-tank is typically used in the movies because it looks scarier! Anti-tank has two propulsion components for speed and distance. Anti-personnel is less known but people use it as a large grenade...it's long but has a shorter range. All details can be found online...look on YouTube for RPG-7 videos.

2. D. says both, when fired into an enclosed environment through a window, will blow out windows in that room nearby, have a huge flash, and will cause extensive damage to some walls, which will contain pieces of shrapnel and severe burns. Using an anti-tank, the window in which it is fired into will have a small hole, assuming it hits a wall on the other side of a room. That room will sustain some damage with shrapnel and explosion burns, but because they are designed to penetrate armor, the majority of the damage and blast will be pushed into the next room, causing obliteration of everything in that next room. Walls would be blown apart and the room would be unrecognizable. It probably wouldn't cause much damage beyond that [room] beside some pictures falling off the wall, broken glass from the force of the explosion, much like a small earthquake might cause. Anti-tank fired directly into the exterior wall of the building would have the same effect as if it hit the first wall after being fired through the window: the majority of damage will be limited that first room.

Firing anti-personnel RPG-7 into a window, the rocket would have the same effect upon entrance, but the blast would be focused on that room upon hitting the first wall, the blast wouldn't extend much into the next room. It acts like a grenade, but it would not or would barely penetrate that first wall. Damage to this room would be much like the second room using the anti-tank RPG-7. Firing an anti-personnel to the exterior wall of a building, the blast would be primarily on the outside of the building.

Nearby windows in both scenarios: it would most likely shatter only the windows associated with or immediately adjacent to the room it enters. The shockwave will extend as far as possible. The wake of energy could kill a lot or few people depending on the room. Lots of windows will let the energy disperse and cause less effect from flying debris. If there are fewer windows and dense walls (not just wood studs and drywall, let's say concrete walls like in Europe), the blast will force its way through these materials and the force of flying debris would kill many more people nearby.

Hope this helps!


I love her, and them. You have to have a soft spot in your heart for a couple who can be described as: "She's an archaeologist, he's a mercenary; together, THEY FIGHT CRIME."

Edited at 2009-12-12 05:12 pm (UTC)
burger_eater
Dec. 12th, 2009 07:24 pm (UTC)
That is awesome. Thank you so much, and please pass on my gratitude toward your friends, too.
sksperry
Dec. 9th, 2009 12:09 am (UTC)
The blast would blow the windows out--if not the concussion, definitely the shrapnel. It might take out a wall or two, but odds are the floor or ceiling would be intact unless from a direct hit. It also depends on the warhead. An HE warhead would be similar to tossing two or three frag grenades into the room. An HEAT warhead is a shaped-charged warhead, and might actually punch through the apartment before going off if it didn't his a solid wall (brick) or otherwise before detonating.
burger_eater
Dec. 9th, 2009 04:25 am (UTC)
I'm thinking anti-personnel, so lots of shrapnel. It's just that I have no real concept of the concussive force, and the videos I can find online show them being used out of doors.
sinboy
Dec. 9th, 2009 02:50 am (UTC)
RPG-7's are so Rambo. How about a nice M-32?
burger_eater
Dec. 9th, 2009 04:18 am (UTC)
That's book two.

Edited at 2009-12-09 04:54 am (UTC)
sinboy
Dec. 9th, 2009 08:02 pm (UTC)
This is why I like Kinkaid's character in the Dresden Files. Because you know he has one of those somewhere. I mean, not even your standard Laurel K. Hamilton 1000 year old uber vampire or alpha werewolf should eb able to stand up to multiple hits from one. Or an AA-12.

I love the absurd zeal of the Future Weapons guy. He's just so hyper and over the top.
burger_eater
Dec. 10th, 2009 04:06 pm (UTC)
He also has this weird, whispery voice, as though he's telling the tv camera a super-awesome secret. It's a little creepy.
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